[WED]James Dyer of Dyersville IA
Mary Thacher
wedmore@lists.tutton.org
Tue, 2 Jul 2002 20:24:53 -0400
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Dear Nancy,
Thank you for your email about your George Redman ancestor who went to =
Dyersville. I am copying it and will forward it to my cousins the =
Polders who live in Dyersville but who are not on email.
I think Somerset people came to Dyersville because there were land =
grants for good farmland, and they came following James Dyer who came in =
1847. I have been transcribing some of the family letters of this period =
and several things appear clearly: that England was having an =
agricultural crisis similar to Ireland, the only difference being that =
there was not the monoculture of the potato, and the land was not owned =
by distant landlords. There was a wet weather crisis however which made =
food very expensive, crops rotted in the ground before being harvested, =
and this affected the whole economic picture. The idea of being able to =
own your own land instead of farming someone else's and the American way =
of free enterprise was also appealing. It was interesting to read that =
many of the same conditions existed in the 1620's when there was such a =
flood of emigration from England.
For a while Dyersville was the terminus for the railroad which brought =
it considerable business too.
=20
Mary Thacher
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From: Nancy Hill=20
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 9:24 PM
Subject: Re: [WED]James Dyer of Dyersville IA
Hello,
My name is Nancy Hill and my gr-grandfather, George Redman, emigrated =
from Wedmore to Dubuque, Iowa in 1852. He was a farmer in the =
Dyersville, Iowa area. He married a woman named Jane Bailey in =
Dyersville. She died leaving him with small children. He returned to =
England and married Louisa Jane Fear, from Mark, Somerset, England, in =
1869. They lived in the Dyersville, Iowa area until 1872 when they =
relocated to Decatur County, Iowa in the southern part of the state. He =
died in 1887. After his death, Louisa Jane married Anthony Cox, also of =
Somerset, England in Decatur County, Iowa. They lived together until =
his death in 1914. We also have a Dyersville, Iowa connection. I've =
been trying to figure out why so many Somerset people settled there.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mary Thacher=20
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2002 7:20 PM
Subject: Re: [WED]James Dyer of Dyersville IA
Dear John Hayward,
I was delighted to have more on Hester Tyley's ancestry! Thank you =
for getting in touch with me. It makes it interesting to know that =
the wife of William Tyley was Susannah Gibbs as there were Gibbs who =
went to Dyersville IA with members of the Dyer family about 1849..
Dyersville is in DubuqueCounty IA, on the Maquoteka River, 40 miles =
west of Dubuque City. Farley IA is about 10 miles to the southeast of =
Dyersville. James Dyer founded Dyersville and Manchester, seat of =
Delaware County, another 30 miles to the west of Dyersville.
There was a Paul Tyley, ae 28 who came to Dyersville with James Dyer =
Sr., and Hester Tyley Dyer his wife in 1849. They sailed on the Sarah =
Sands, a steamship out of Liverpool and arrived in NYC on 2 may 1849. =
John Dyer who married Hester Tyley was also on this ship: this Hester =
Dyer was the daughter of John and Hannah Tyley. Enclosed as an =
attachment are my notes on this family, which may be of interest (and =
which surely need editing!)
Thank you for your email. =20
Very sincerely,
Mary M. Thacher
----- Original Message -----=20
From: John Hayward=20
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2002 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WED]James Dyer of Dyersville IA
Whoopee
Hello cousin Mary
I, and my cousin Tim Curtin in Canberra, Australia are 3rd great =
nephews and 2nd cousins, 6 times removed of Hester Tyley, baptised 4th =
June 1792 and daughter of William and Susanna Tyley, late Gibbs.
Look at the family on rootsweb and search for Hester Tyley, born =
1792 and you should find her on my site.
Then please come back to me and I can send you much more via =
GEDCOM and no doubt you will reciprocate.
Where abouts is Dyersville? There really should be a Wedmore =
descendants club in Iowa.
Best wishes
John V Hayward
in The Heritage Coast, Suffolk, England.
john@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk
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----- Original Message -----=20
From: Mary Thacher=20
To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: [WED]James Dyer of Dyersville IA
I am hoping that the letter I sent earlier from the Polders of =
Dyersville will appear on the mailing lists. If you had trouble =
downloading it, do let me know and I will send you a copy snail mail.
Meanwhile I hope that someone can help me to find the name of =
the mother of James M. Dyer, founder of Dyersville. His mother was =
named Mary, she was the first wife of James Dyer of Burrington and =
Yatton, they married before 11 June 1814 when their first son, John Dyer =
was baptised in Yatton. I have found no marriage record for this =
couple. Mary --- Dyer died in Yatton and was buried on 28 may 1823 at =
the age of 28. James M. Dyer was born in 1820. They had five children, =
one of whom died young.
James Dyer was of Banwell when he married his second wife, Jane =
Harden, on 11 may 1824. They had three children. By the time she died =
before 28 february 1831 when she was buried in Yatton, she was of =
Wedmore and 38 years old.
James Dyer married on 28 december 1831 Hester Tyley of Wedmore, =
the daughter of William Tyley. She emigrated with him to Iowa and by =
the time she died in 1883, they had never been apart since they were =
married! James Sr. died in 1884 in Dubuque, having outlived his son =
James M. by 20 years.
Your mailroom is full of interesting information! =
Congratulations on the website!
Best wishes, Mary M. Thacher
Great great granddaughter of James M. Dyer
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear Nancy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for your email about your =
George Redman=20
ancestor who went to Dyersville. I am copying it and will forward =
it to my=20
cousins the Polders who live in Dyersville but who are not on=20
email.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I think Somerset people came to =
Dyersville because=20
there were land grants for good farmland, and they came following James =
Dyer who=20
came in 1847. I have been transcribing some of the family letters of =
this period=20
and several things appear clearly: that England was having an =
agricultural=20
crisis similar to Ireland, the only difference being that there was not =
the=20
monoculture of the potato, and the land was not owned by distant=20
landlords. There was a wet weather crisis however which made food =
very=20
expensive, crops rotted in the ground before being harvested, and this =
affected=20
the whole economic picture. The idea of being able to own your own =
land=20
instead of farming someone else's and the American way of free =
enterprise was=20
also appealing. It was interesting to read that many of the same=20
conditions existed in the 1620's when there was such a flood of =
emigration from=20
England.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>For a while Dyersville was the terminus =
for the=20
railroad which brought it considerable business too.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Mary Thacher</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<A title=3Dnhill@kc.rr.com href=3D"mailto:nhill@kc.rr.com">Nancy =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 30, 2002 =
9:24 PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WED]James Dyer of =
Dyersville IA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My name is Nancy Hill and my =
gr-grandfather,=20
George Redman, emigrated from Wedmore to Dubuque, Iowa in 1852. =
He was a=20
farmer in the Dyersville, Iowa area. He married a woman named =
Jane=20
Bailey in Dyersville. She died leaving him with small =
children. He=20
returned to England and married Louisa Jane Fear, from Mark, Somerset, =
England, in 1869. They lived in the Dyersville, Iowa area until =
1872=20
when they relocated to Decatur County, Iowa in the southern part of =
the=20
state. He died in 1887. After his death, Louisa Jane =
married=20
Anthony Cox, also of Somerset, England in Decatur County, Iowa. =
They=20
lived together until his death in 1914. We also have a =
Dyersville, Iowa=20
connection. I've been trying to figure out why so many Somerset =
people=20
settled there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmthacher@snet.net href=3D"mailto:mthacher@snet.net">Mary =
Thacher</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dwedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 30, 2002 =
7:20=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WED]James Dyer =
of=20
Dyersville IA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dear John Hayward,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I was delighted to have more on =
Hester Tyley's=20
ancestry! Thank you for getting in touch with me. It =
makes=20
it interesting to know that the wife of William Tyley =
was=20
Susannah Gibbs as there were Gibbs who went to Dyersville IA with =
members of=20
the Dyer family about 1849..</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Dyersville is in DubuqueCounty IA, =
on the=20
Maquoteka River, 40 miles west of Dubuque City. Farley IA is about =
10 miles=20
to the southeast of Dyersville. James Dyer founded Dyersville =
and=20
Manchester, seat of Delaware County, another 30 miles to the west of =
Dyersville.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>There was a Paul Tyley, ae 28 who =
came to=20
Dyersville with James Dyer Sr., and Hester Tyley Dyer his wife in=20
1849. They sailed on the Sarah Sands, a steamship out of =
Liverpool and=20
arrived in NYC on 2 may 1849. John Dyer who married Hester =
Tyley was=20
also on this ship: this Hester Dyer was the daughter of John and =
Hannah=20
Tyley. Enclosed as an attachment are my notes on this family, =
which=20
may be of interest (and which surely need =
editing!)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thank you for your email. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Very sincerely,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Mary M. Thacher</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=3Djohn@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk=20
href=3D"mailto:john@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk">John Hayward</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dwedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
=
href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, June 29, =
2002 6:10=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WED]James =
Dyer of=20
Dyersville IA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Whoopee</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hello cousin Mary</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I, and my cousin Tim Curtin in =
Canberra,=20
Australia are 3rd great nephews <STRONG>and</STRONG> 2nd cousins, =
6 times=20
removed of Hester Tyley, baptised 4th June 1792 and daughter of =
William=20
and Susanna Tyley, late Gibbs.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Look at the family on rootsweb =
and search for=20
Hester Tyley, born 1792 and you should find her on my =
site.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Then please come back to me =
and I can=20
send you much more via GEDCOM and no doubt you will=20
reciprocate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Where abouts is Dyersville? There =
really=20
should be a Wedmore descendants club in Iowa.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>John V Hayward<BR>in The Heritage Coast, Suffolk, =
England.<BR><A=20
=
href=3D"mailto:john@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk">john@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk</A><B=
R>Protected=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dmthacher@snet.net =
href=3D"mailto:mthacher@snet.net">Mary=20
Thacher</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 28, =
2002 11:02=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [WED]James Dyer =
of=20
Dyersville IA</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am hoping that the letter I =
sent earlier=20
from the Polders of Dyersville will appear on the mailing =
lists. =20
If you had trouble downloading it, do let me know and I will =
send you a=20
copy snail mail.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Meanwhile I hope that someone =
can help me=20
to find the name of the mother of James M. Dyer, founder of=20
Dyersville. His mother was named Mary, she was the first =
wife of=20
James Dyer of Burrington and Yatton, they married before 11 June =
1814=20
when their first son, John Dyer was baptised in Yatton. I =
have=20
found no marriage record for this couple. Mary --- Dyer =
died in=20
Yatton and was buried on 28 may 1823 at the age of 28. =
James M.=20
Dyer was born in 1820. They had five children, one of whom =
died=20
young.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James Dyer was of Banwell when =
he married=20
his second wife, Jane Harden, on 11 may 1824. They had =
three=20
children. By the time she died before 28 february 1831 =
when she=20
was buried in Yatton, she was of Wedmore and 38 years =
old.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>James Dyer married on 28 =
december 1831=20
Hester Tyley of Wedmore, the daughter of William Tyley. =
She=20
emigrated with him to Iowa and by the time she died in 1883, =
they had=20
never been apart since they were married! James Sr. died =
in 1884=20
in Dubuque, having outlived his son James M. by 20 =
years.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your mailroom is full of =
interesting=20
information! Congratulations on the website!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Best wishes, Mary M.=20
Thacher</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great great granddaughter of =
James M.=20
Dyer</FONT></DIV>
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