Hello Michael Sorry to have missed you. It was a hectic but enjoyable few days. George gave me lots of assistance, for which I will be eternally grateful. Yes I have both of Hazel's books. Incidentally Page 81 the Jubilee bonfire tall man, 2nd from the right in dark suit is my great grandfather Albert Edward Tincknell (identified by my late mother). Is Humphrey on your Duckett line? regards Lyn