[WED]John Green and Mary Ann Wall

Karla VF Staudt wedmore@lists.tutton.org
Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:43:22 -0400


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Tim and Stephen,

Jane BAKER bap.15 Feb 1829 in Wedmore was the 1st wife of William Baker. =
 Though I have yet to find a marriage record location, I feel quite sure =
this was her name.  Jane and William Wall had one child together - my =
great-grandmother, Amelia Jane Wall Greenwood b.29 July 1860.  On =
Amelia's death certificate, it lists as Amelia's mother - Jane Baker.  =
William married (2) Eliza Ann COX at St. Mary's of Croscrombe on 8 April =
1861, so Jane's death date falls between Amelia's birth and the =
remarriage.  William and Eliza had several other children together, and =
the family did move to Dubuque County, IA  between 1865-68.

William Wall's had at least three siblings who also emigrated to Dubuque =
County:

sister Jane Wall who married Joseph COUNSELL also emigrated.

sister Mary Ann Wall mar. John Green COMER and they emigrated about 1876

sister Elizabeth Wall mar. Richard "Dickie" BAKER - but I am not sure =
where they married.

I do not know anything further about the rest of the siblings of William =
Wall.

Karla
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  From: Tim Curtin=20
  To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
  Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 10:00 PM
  Subject: Re: [WED]John Green and Mary Ann Wall


  Hi Stephen

  fascinating as ever (especially the Pitman links)!

  My perhaps imperfect understanding (based on info from Karla) is that =
Jane Baker bap 1829 in fact married that William Wall of Heathouse about =
1859 but she died a year or so later, upon which he married Elizabeth =
Ann Cox, and they moved to Dubuque, Iowa, about 1866.
    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Stephen L. Brown=20
    To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
    Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:28 AM
    Subject: [WED]John Green and Mary Ann Wall


    Hi in particular to Karla,
           I do not know if you remember me but we did some e-mailing =
back and forth in connection with Walls and Bakers of Wedmore. I hope =
you are well.
           I was interested in your recent post regarding the Comers. =
Here is what I have.=20
           Thomas Comer baptized at Meare 22 Aug 1819 the son of John =
and Mary Comer. Thomas married Elizabeth Green at Wedmore in 1842 and =
they had at least the following children.
           John Green Comer , George Green Comer , Elizabeth Comer , =
Eleanor Maria Comer , William Comer , Mary Ann Comer and Edward Comer. I =
had not realised that John Green Comers first wife was Mary Ann Wall . . =
. perhaps Stan or John might do a marriage look up. I believe they had a =
number of children together. His second wife was Amelia Elizabeth Pitman =
the daughter of William Pitman baptized at Edington 20 Aug 1831. She is =
the eldest sister of Robert Lee Pitman mentioned in a recent post by Tim =
Curtin. There were at least six children by this second marriage. Both =
John Green Comer and William Comer emigrated to Iowa. Elizabeth Comer I =
have tentatively married to Henry Tabor Teek son of Mathew Teek of =
Chapel Allerton. Mary Ann Comer was the first wife of my Great =
Grandfather George Brown.
          George Green Comer was a lunatic but unlike nany others with =
this unfortunate condition was not institutionalised but rather kept at =
home. I vaguely remember my father telling me stories when I was a boy =
which he no doubt heard from his father about George becoming very =
eratic every full moon and his strange behavior. I recall being both =
intrigued and alarmed. The rest of the time he was apparently docile.
          I have nothing on Edward or Eleanor Maria.
          Please tell me more about the biography you mentioned and as =
to how I may get a copy.
          Besides ' your ' Richard Baker there is another Richard Baker =
born Nov 1825 that married a Jane about 1863 and was also a farmer at =
Worthington. He emigrated in 1846 and is no doubt a grandson of Richard =
Baker and Mary Wall but who were his parents? As regards your mysterious =
Jane Baker I remember searching long and hard for her with no results. =
The Jane Baker baptised 15 Feb 1829 daughter of William Baker and Ann =
Duckett I think we agreed married Gabriel Cox in 1853. Have you in fact =
now found her? If not I recently had a brainstorm regarding this =
individual . . . rare for me . . LOL. I thought what if you were =
mistaken about her surname . . . what if her given name was Jane Baker. =
A quick look in the census reveals a Jane Baker Toogood who was baptized =
at Wedmore 20 Oct 1842, my first cousin four times removed , living at =
Westham in 1851. Westham is just down the road from Heathouse the home =
of William Wall. The paternal grandmother of this Jane Toogood was =
Elizabeth Cock possibly written as Cox. This Jane could be the person =
you are looking for . . . she might be about seventeen or eighteen in =
1859. I hate to bother anyone for a look up again but if there is a =
marriage about 1859 between a Jane Toogood and a William Wall it might =
bear your scutiny.
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tim and Stephen,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Jane BAKER bap.15 Feb 1829 in Wedmore =
was the 1st=20
wife of William Baker.&nbsp; Though I have yet to find a marriage record =

location, I feel quite sure this was her name.&nbsp; Jane and William =
Wall had=20
one child together - my great-grandmother, Amelia Jane&nbsp;Wall =
Greenwood b.29=20
July 1860.&nbsp; On Amelia's death certificate, it lists as Amelia's =
mother -=20
Jane Baker.&nbsp; William married (2) Eliza Ann COX at St. Mary's of =
Croscrombe=20
on 8 April 1861, so Jane's death date falls between Amelia's birth and =
the=20
remarriage.&nbsp; William and Eliza had several other children together, =
and the=20
family did move to Dubuque County, IA&nbsp; between =
1865-68.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>William Wall's had at least three =
siblings&nbsp;who=20
also emigrated to Dubuque County:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sister Jane Wall who married Joseph =
COUNSELL also=20
emigrated.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sister Mary Ann Wall mar. John Green =
COMER and they=20
emigrated about 1876</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>sister Elizabeth Wall mar. Richard =
"Dickie" BAKER -=20
but I am not sure where they married.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I do not know anything further about =
the rest of=20
the siblings of William Wall.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Karla</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dtcurtin@austarmetro.com.au=20
  href=3D"mailto:tcurtin@austarmetro.com.au">Tim Curtin</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 22, =
2002 10:00=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WED]John Green =
and Mary Ann=20
  Wall</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Stephen</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>fascinating as ever (especially the =
Pitman=20
  links)!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My perhaps imperfect understanding =
(based on info=20
  from Karla) is that Jane Baker bap 1829 in fact married that William =
Wall of=20
  Heathouse about 1859 but she died a year or so later, upon which he =
married=20
  Elizabeth Ann Cox, and they moved to Dubuque, Iowa, about =
1866.</FONT></DIV>
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    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
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    <A title=3Dslb2@ix.netcom.com =
href=3D"mailto:slb2@ix.netcom.com">Stephen L.=20
    Brown</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dwedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 23, =
2002 6:28=20
    AM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [WED]John Green and =
Mary Ann=20
    Wall</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><STRONG>Hi in particular to=20
    Karla,</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
    do not know if you remember me but we did some e-mailing back and =
forth in=20
    connection with Walls and Bakers of Wedmore. I hope you are=20
    well.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I=20
    was interested in your recent post regarding the Comers. Here is =
what&nbsp;I=20
    have. </STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    Thomas Comer baptized at Meare 22 Aug 1819 the son of John and Mary =
Comer.=20
    Thomas married Elizabeth Green at Wedmore in 1842 and they had at =
least the=20
    following children.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
    John Green Comer , George Green Comer , Elizabeth Comer , Eleanor =
Maria=20
    Comer , William Comer , Mary Ann Comer and Edward Comer. I had not =
realised=20
    that John Green Comers first wife was Mary Ann Wall . . . perhaps =
Stan or=20
    John might do a marriage look up. I believe they had a number of =
children=20
    together. His second wife was Amelia Elizabeth Pitman the daughter =
of=20
    William Pitman baptized at Edington 20 Aug 1831. She is the eldest =
sister of=20
    Robert Lee Pitman mentioned in a recent post by Tim Curtin. There =
were at=20
    least six children by this second marriage. Both John Green Comer =
and=20
    William Comer emigrated to Iowa. Elizabeth Comer I have tentatively =
married=20
    to Henry Tabor Teek son of Mathew Teek of Chapel Allerton. Mary Ann =
Comer=20
    was the first wife of my Great Grandfather George=20
    Brown.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; George=20
    Green Comer was a lunatic but unlike nany others with this =
unfortunate=20
    condition was not institutionalised but rather kept at home. I =
vaguely=20
    remember my father telling me stories when I was a boy which =
he&nbsp;no=20
    doubt heard from his father about George becoming very eratic every =
full=20
    moon and his strange behavior. I recall being both intrigued and =
alarmed.=20
    The rest of the time he was apparently docile.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I have=20
    nothing on Edward or Eleanor Maria.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Please=20
    tell me more about the biography you mentioned and as to how I may =
get a=20
    copy.</STRONG></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Besides=20
    ' your ' Richard Baker there is another Richard Baker born Nov 1825 =
that=20
    married a Jane about 1863 and was also a farmer at Worthington. He =
emigrated=20
    in 1846 and is no doubt a grandson of Richard Baker and Mary Wall =
but who=20
    were his parents? As regards your mysterious Jane Baker I remember =
searching=20
    long and hard for her with no results. The Jane Baker baptised 15 =
Feb 1829=20
    daughter of William Baker and Ann Duckett I think we agreed married =
Gabriel=20
    Cox in 1853. Have you in fact now found her? If not I recently had a =

    brainstorm regarding this individual . . . rare for me . . LOL. I =
thought=20
    what if you were mistaken about her surname . . . what if her given =
name was=20
    Jane Baker. A quick look in the census reveals a Jane Baker Toogood =
who was=20
    baptized at Wedmore 20 Oct 1842, my first cousin four times removed =
, living=20
    at Westham in 1851. Westham is just down the road from Heathouse the =
home of=20
    William Wall. The paternal grandmother of this Jane Toogood was =
Elizabeth=20
    Cock possibly written as Cox. This Jane could be the person you are =
looking=20
    for . . . she might be about seventeen or eighteen in 1859. I hate =
to bother=20
    anyone for a look up again but if there is a marriage about 1859 =
between a=20
    Jane Toogood and a William Wall it might bear your=20
    =
scutiny.</STRONG></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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