From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sun Feb 8 15:37:41 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Mathew Ducket) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:37:41 -0000 Subject: [WED]Popham family Message-ID: <000f01c3ee59$a8bf1160$70028351@cottage> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to compare your information = against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry and Elizabeth = Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my = information below. Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in Blackford, I will check. 1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I have some doubts as to = whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that Henry was = living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are = correct, as the age of the map could be a few years either side of = 1841.) Henry Popham age 45 Elizabeth 40 Elizabeth 23 Charlotte 22 George 18 Edwin 15 Henry 13 Note that ages in this census were only correct to the nearest 5 years, = however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect.=20 1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford. Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, Wedmore. Elizabeth 59 born Mark. Mary 36, daughter born Mark. Edwin 24, son born Wedmore. Gabriel 1, visitor born Wedmore.=20 Gabriel may be a grandson. Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard. 1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 years. Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged 81 years. Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged 76 years. 2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 years. Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, aged 78 years. Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not know if he was living = there. I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found some of Edwin's = brothers and sisters. Henry and his wife in Nyland. Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell. George and wife and family in Mark. Mary, unmarried in South Brent. I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that they were already in = the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in England living = with Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the marriages took place in late = 1881, it would be interesting to know the circumstances which lead to = the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted by post. My American information comes from an unpublished Duckett family tree = researched by Jemima Thom. She was a descendant of an Edward Duckett, = who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett) brother. Edward emigrated to = Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he moved to Buchanan County. I suspect = that the Pophams may have settled nearby. Stephen Popham, his father and = the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. The rest is on = Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that was a = mistake, unless he was known by both names. Finally I have a pair of large oil paintings of Henry Popham and his = wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister Jane Clarke was my = paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted around = 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the = same, but there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this = time. I will try to make certain that this is the case, and then check on = Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is confusing. Matthew Duckett. ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to = compare your=20 information against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry = and=20 Elizabeth Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my=20 information below.
Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in = Blackford, I will=20 check.
 
1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I = have some=20 doubts as to whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that = Henry=20 was living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are = correct,=20 as the age of the map could be a few years either side of = 1841.)
Henry Popham age 45
Elizabeth         &= nbsp;    =20 40
Elizabeth         &= nbsp;    =20 23
Charlotte         &= nbsp;    =20 22
George         &nbs= p;       18
Edwin          = ;        =20 15
Henry          = ;         13
Note that ages in this census were only correct to = the nearest=20 5 years, however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect. 
 
1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford.
Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, = Wedmore.
Elizabeth         &= nbsp;    =20 59            = ;            =    =20 born Mark.
Mary          =           =20 36,=20 daughter           = ;  =20 born Mark.
Edwin          = ;        =20 24,=20 son           &nbs= p;         =20 born Wedmore.
Gabriel         &nb= sp;         =20 1,=20 visitor           =        born=20 Wedmore. 
Gabriel may be a grandson.
 
Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard.
1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 = years.
    Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged = 81=20 years.
    Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged = 76=20 years.
2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 = years.
    Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, = aged 78=20 years.
Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not = know if he=20 was living there.
 
I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found = some of=20 Edwin's brothers and sisters.
Henry and his wife in Nyland.
Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell.
George and wife and family in Mark.
Mary, unmarried in South Brent.
I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that = they were=20 already in the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in = England=20 living with Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the = marriages=20 took place in late 1881, it would be interesting to know the = circumstances which=20 lead to the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted = by=20 post.
 
My American information comes from an=20 unpublished Duckett family tree researched by Jemima Thom. She was = a=20 descendant of an Edward Duckett, who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett)=20 brother. Edward emigrated to Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he = moved to=20 Buchanan County. I suspect that the Pophams may have settled nearby. = Stephen=20 Popham, his father and the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. = The rest=20 is on Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that = was a=20 mistake, unless he was known by both names.
 
Finally I have a  pair of large oil paintings = of Henry=20 Popham and his wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister = Jane Clarke=20 was my paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted = around=20 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the = same, but=20 there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this = time.
I will try to make certain that this is the case, = and then=20 check on Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is = confusing.
Matthew Duckett.
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 10 19:56:32 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Cory & Kristen) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:56:32 -0600 Subject: [WED]Re:Popham References: <20040209061139.21A0E61CF1@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <000601c3f00f$fe04a9c0$a92d48ce@maxwell> Thnak you so much Mathew for the information these Pophams do match with mine.I have paper form the Delware Co. book on Edwin Popham will sed them via E-mail and to anyone else who is interested. Kristen. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 12:11 AM Subject: Wedmore digest, Vol 1 #382 - 1 msg > Send Wedmore mailing list submissions to > wedmore@lists.tutton.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wedmore-request@lists.tutton.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wedmore-admin@lists.tutton.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wedmore digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Popham family (Mathew Ducket) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Mathew Ducket" > To: > Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2004 15:37:41 -0000 > Subject: [WED]Popham family > Reply-To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to compare your information = > against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry and Elizabeth = > Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my = > information below. > Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in Blackford, I will check. > > 1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I have some doubts as to = > whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that Henry was = > living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are = > correct, as the age of the map could be a few years either side of = > 1841.) > Henry Popham age 45 > Elizabeth 40 > Elizabeth 23 > Charlotte 22 > George 18 > Edwin 15 > Henry 13 > Note that ages in this census were only correct to the nearest 5 years, = > however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect.=20 > > 1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford. > Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, Wedmore. > Elizabeth 59 born Mark. > Mary 36, daughter born Mark. > Edwin 24, son born Wedmore. > Gabriel 1, visitor born Wedmore.=20 > Gabriel may be a grandson. > > Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard. > 1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 years. > Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged 81 years. > Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged 76 years. > 2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 years. > Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, aged 78 years. > Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not know if he was living = > there. > > I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found some of Edwin's = > brothers and sisters. > Henry and his wife in Nyland. > Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell. > George and wife and family in Mark. > Mary, unmarried in South Brent. > I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that they were already in = > the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in England living = > with Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the marriages took place in late = > 1881, it would be interesting to know the circumstances which lead to = > the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted by post. > > My American information comes from an unpublished Duckett family tree = > researched by Jemima Thom. She was a descendant of an Edward Duckett, = > who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett) brother. Edward emigrated to = > Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he moved to Buchanan County. I suspect = > that the Pophams may have settled nearby. Stephen Popham, his father and = > the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. The rest is on = > Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that was a = > mistake, unless he was known by both names. > > Finally I have a pair of large oil paintings of Henry Popham and his = > wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister Jane Clarke was my = > paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted around = > 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the = > same, but there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this = > time. > I will try to make certain that this is the case, and then check on = > Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is confusing. > Matthew Duckett. > > > > > ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to = > compare your=20 > information against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry = > and=20 > Elizabeth Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my=20 > information below.
>
Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in = > Blackford, I will=20 > check.
>
 
>
1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I = > have some=20 > doubts as to whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that = > Henry=20 > was living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are = > correct,=20 > as the age of the map could be a few years either side of = > 1841.)
>
Henry Popham age 45
>
size=3D2>Elizabeth         &= > nbsp;    =20 > 40
>
size=3D2>Elizabeth         &= > nbsp;    =20 > 23
>
size=3D2>Charlotte         &= > nbsp;    =20 > 22
>
size=3D2>George         &nbs= > p;       18
>
size=3D2>Edwin          = > ;        =20 > 15
>
size=3D2>Henry          = > ;         13
>
Note that ages in this census were only correct to = > the nearest=20 > 5 years, however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect. 
>
 
>
1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford.
>
Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, = > > Wedmore.
>
size=3D2>Elizabeth         &= > nbsp;    =20 > 59            = > ;            = >    =20 > born Mark.
>
size=3D2>Mary          = >           =20 > 36,=20 > daughter           = > ;  =20 > born Mark.
>
size=3D2>Edwin          = > ;        =20 > 24,=20 > son           &nbs= > p;         =20 > born Wedmore.
>
size=3D2>Gabriel         &nb= > sp;         =20 > 1,=20 > visitor           = >        born=20 > Wedmore. 
>
Gabriel may be a grandson.
>
 
>
Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard.
>
1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 = > years.
>
    Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged = > 81=20 > years.
>
    Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged = > 76=20 > years.
>
2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 = > years.
>
    Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, = > aged 78=20 > years.
>
Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not = > know if he=20 > was living there.
>
 
>
I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found = > some of=20 > Edwin's brothers and sisters.
>
Henry and his wife in Nyland.
>
Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell.
>
George and wife and family in Mark.
>
Mary, unmarried in South Brent.
>
I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that = > they were=20 > already in the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in = > England=20 > living with Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the = > marriages=20 > took place in late 1881, it would be interesting to know the = > circumstances which=20 > lead to the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted = > by=20 > post.
>
 
>
My American information comes from an=20 > unpublished Duckett family tree researched by Jemima Thom. She was = > a=20 > descendant of an Edward Duckett, who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett)=20 > brother. Edward emigrated to Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he = > moved to=20 > Buchanan County. I suspect that the Pophams may have settled nearby. = > Stephen=20 > Popham, his father and the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. = > The rest=20 > is on Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that = > was a=20 > mistake, unless he was known by both names.
>
 
>
Finally I have a  pair of large oil paintings = > of Henry=20 > Popham and his wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister = > Jane Clarke=20 > was my paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted = > around=20 > 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the = > same, but=20 > there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this = > time.
>
I will try to make certain that this is the case, = > and then=20 > check on Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is = > confusing.
>
Matthew Duckett.
>
 
>
 
>
 
> > ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01C3EE59.7D66E060-- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Wedmore mailing list > Wedmore@lists.tutton.org > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > > Wedmore Web Site at: http://www.tutton.org > > > End of Wedmore Digest > > From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Feb 14 00:37:53 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 19:37:53 EST Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Message-ID: <9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1@aol.com> --part1_9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I'm new to the list and wondered if anyone had further information on the above or their spouses. I have William Roper b unk d 2-24-1798 married Anne Williams 1771. I descend from their son Hugh Roper b abt. 1774, Wedmore d April 8, 1846, Crickham. (My cousins Sandi and Kristin who are on this list, also descend from Hugh and William Roper.) My line from Hugh and his second wife Jane Davis is his daughter Jane Roper who married Samuel Evans, February 28, 1849, Axbridge. Samuel Evans father was William Evans birthdate unk. who we believe was born in Bristol. I do not know the wife of William Evans. Their children were Samuel Evans b 1823, Cheddar or Bristol, Forest Evans b 1815 m Eliza McDonigal, Flower Evans b Abt. 1812 m John Irish, Fannie Evans b Abt. 1818, m John Lumber, Elizabeth Evans, Harriet Evans, Sarah Evans b abt. 1822, and Edwin Evans b 1825. Most of the children were married in Axbridge. We believe that they were living in Cheddar and grew up there but may not have all been born there. Also, I have no information for Jane Davis, Hugh Roper's second wife. Her birth years vary from 1874 to 1894, however, I believe it may have been closer to 1884. I have not found a marriage record yet for her and Hugh. Any idea on how to locate more information? Thank you for any help. Joy in California --part1_9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,  
    I'm new to the list and wondered if anyone had=20= further information on the above or their spouses.  I have William Rope= r b unk d 2-24-1798 married Anne Williams 1771.  I descend from their s= on Hugh Roper b abt. 1774, Wedmore d April 8, 1846, Crickham.  (My cous= ins Sandi and Kristin who are on this list, also descend from Hugh and Willi= am Roper.)  My line from Hugh and his second wife Jane Davis is his dau= ghter Jane Roper who married Samuel Evans, February 28, 1849, Axbridge. &nbs= p;Samuel Evans father was William Evans birthdate unk. who we believe was bo= rn in Bristol.  I do not know the wife of William Evans.  Their ch= ildren were Samuel Evans b 1823, Cheddar or Bristol, Forest Evans b 1815 m E= liza McDonigal, Flower Evans b Abt. 1812 m John Irish, Fannie Evans b Abt. 1= 818, m John Lumber, Elizabeth Evans, Harriet Evans, Sarah Evans b abt. 1822,= and Edwin Evans b 1825.  Most of the children were married in Axbridge= .  We believe that they were living in Cheddar and grew up there but ma= y not have all been born there.  Also, I have no information for Jane D= avis, Hugh Roper's second wife.  Her birth years vary from 1874 to 1894= , however, I believe it may have been closer to 1884.  I have not found= a marriage record yet for her and Hugh.
Any idea on how to locate more information?  Thank you for any help= .
Joy in California
--part1_9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Feb 14 23:23:19 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Bob McGinnis) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:23:19 -0600 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans References: <9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1@aol.com> Message-ID: <0de101c3f351$88c617d0$1e8228d1@mcginnis> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DDE_01C3F31F.3D5E93D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List, I'm the cousin Sandi from this e-mail and I have been on the list for = several years now. We three gals have been sharing information we have = collected on the three daughters of Hugh and Jane Roper. Kris in Iowa = descends from Mary Ann ROPER Hole (Richard) Curry (James), Joy in = California from Jane ROPER Evans (Samuel), and I, in Texas, from = daughter Betsey ROPER Tincknell (George) Parker (Joseph). These are all = Somerset folks. The three ROPER sisters along with their mother, Jane, and brother John = arrived in Burlington, Racine County, Wisconsin around 1849. The = daughters along with their husbands and children bought farmland in 1853 = in Delaware County, Iowa just west of Dyersville. We have just now = found the probates after the deaths of George (1862), James (1865) & = Samuel (1872). My question---was there a census in Somerset in 1831? If so, would = anyone be willing to look for me to see if there is a Tincknell family = with a son George who would be abt 8 years old? George gives his age as = 27 in 1850 and 37 in 1860 making him abt 39 at his death and with a = birth date of 1823. His marriage record at St Mary's gives his father = as Zebedee Padfield but we have not been able to identify which = Tincknell family he belonged in. I would be most grateful for any = assistance with this. Thank you. Sandi ------=_NextPart_000_0DDE_01C3F31F.3D5E93D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi List,
I'm the cousin Sandi from this e-mail = and I have=20 been on the list for several years now.  We three gals have been = sharing=20 information we have collected on the three daughters of Hugh and Jane=20 Roper.  Kris in Iowa descends from Mary Ann ROPER Hole (Richard) = Curry=20 (James), Joy in California from Jane ROPER Evans (Samuel), and I, = in Texas,=20  from daughter Betsey ROPER Tincknell (George) Parker = (Joseph).  These=20 are all Somerset folks.
 
The three ROPER sisters along with = their mother,=20 Jane, and brother John arrived in Burlington, Racine County, Wisconsin = around=20 1849.  The daughters along with their husbands and children bought = farmland=20 in 1853 in Delaware County, Iowa just west of Dyersville.  We have = just now=20 found the probates after the deaths of George (1862), James = (1865) &=20 Samuel (1872).
 
My question---was there a census in = Somerset in=20 1831?  If so, would anyone be willing to look for me to see if = there is a=20 Tincknell family with a son George who would be abt 8 years old?  = George=20 gives his age as 27 in 1850 and 37 in 1860 making him abt 39 at his = death and=20 with a birth date of 1823.  His marriage record at St Mary's gives = his=20 father as Zebedee Padfield but we have not been able to identify which = Tincknell=20 family he belonged in.  I would be most grateful for any assistance = with=20 this.
Thank you.
Sandi
------=_NextPart_000_0DDE_01C3F31F.3D5E93D0-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sun Feb 15 02:25:20 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Bob McGinnis) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:25:20 -0600 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans References: <9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1@aol.com> <0de101c3f351$88c617d0$1e8228d1@mcginnis> Message-ID: <0dfd01c3f36a$f6183390$1e8228d1@mcginnis> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0DFA_01C3F338.AAD6D530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I forgot to ask if Zephenia Scobey would be a Wedmore/Somerset name? = Z.D. Scobey accompanied Betsey Tincknell when she filed the probate in = court in 1862. Mr Scobey lived in the same area in Iowa and would have = been abt 45 in 1862. He was listed as a farmer on the 1860 census and = as a minister on the 1870 census. Just wondered if he was also from = Wedmore? Sandi ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob McGinnis=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 5:23 PM Subject: Re: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Hi List, I'm the cousin Sandi from this e-mail and I have been on the list for = several years now. We three gals have been sharing information we have = collected on the three daughters of Hugh and Jane Roper. Kris in Iowa = descends from Mary Ann ROPER Hole (Richard) Curry (James), Joy in = California from Jane ROPER Evans (Samuel), and I, in Texas, from = daughter Betsey ROPER Tincknell (George) Parker (Joseph). These are all = Somerset folks. The three ROPER sisters along with their mother, Jane, and brother = John arrived in Burlington, Racine County, Wisconsin around 1849. The = daughters along with their husbands and children bought farmland in 1853 = in Delaware County, Iowa just west of Dyersville. We have just now = found the probates after the deaths of George (1862), James (1865) & = Samuel (1872). My question---was there a census in Somerset in 1831? If so, would = anyone be willing to look for me to see if there is a Tincknell family = with a son George who would be abt 8 years old? George gives his age as = 27 in 1850 and 37 in 1860 making him abt 39 at his death and with a = birth date of 1823. His marriage record at St Mary's gives his father = as Zebedee Padfield but we have not been able to identify which = Tincknell family he belonged in. I would be most grateful for any = assistance with this. Thank you. Sandi ------=_NextPart_000_0DFA_01C3F338.AAD6D530 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I forgot to ask if Zephenia Scobey = would be a=20 Wedmore/Somerset name?  Z.D. Scobey accompanied Betsey Tincknell = when she=20 filed the probate in court in 1862.  Mr Scobey lived in the same = area in=20 Iowa and would have been abt 45 in 1862.  He was listed as a = farmer on=20 the 1860 census and as a minister on the 1870 census.  Just = wondered if he=20 was also from Wedmore?
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Bob = McGinnis=20
Sent: Saturday, February 14, = 2004 5:23=20 PM
Subject: Re: [WED]William = Roper/William=20 Evans

Hi List,
I'm the cousin Sandi from this e-mail = and I have=20 been on the list for several years now.  We three gals have been = sharing=20 information we have collected on the three daughters of Hugh and Jane=20 Roper.  Kris in Iowa descends from Mary Ann ROPER Hole (Richard) = Curry=20 (James), Joy in California from Jane ROPER Evans (Samuel), and I, = in=20 Texas,  from daughter Betsey ROPER Tincknell (George) Parker=20 (Joseph).  These are all Somerset folks.
 
The three ROPER sisters along with = their mother,=20 Jane, and brother John arrived in Burlington, Racine County, Wisconsin = around=20 1849.  The daughters along with their husbands and children = bought=20 farmland in 1853 in Delaware County, Iowa just west of = Dyersville.  We=20 have just now found the probates after the deaths of George (1862), = James=20 (1865) & Samuel (1872).
 
My question---was there a census in = Somerset in=20 1831?  If so, would anyone be willing to look for me to see if = there is a=20 Tincknell family with a son George who would be abt 8 years old?  = George=20 gives his age as 27 in 1850 and 37 in 1860 making him abt 39 at his = death and=20 with a birth date of 1823.  His marriage record at St Mary's = gives his=20 father as Zebedee Padfield but we have not been able to identify which = Tincknell family he belonged in.  I would be most grateful for = any=20 assistance with this.
Thank you.
Sandi
------=_NextPart_000_0DFA_01C3F338.AAD6D530-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sun Feb 15 14:51:53 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 09:51:53 EST Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Message-ID: <87.5561435.2d60e189@aol.com> --part1_87.5561435.2d60e189_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 14/02/2004 23:24:20 GMT Standard Time, mcginnis@arn.net writes: > My question---was there a census in Somerset in 1831? If so, would anyone > be willing to look for me to see if there is a Tincknell family with a son > George who would be abt 8 years old? Hi Sandi, the 1831 Census does not give details of people [with a few exceptions], it simply records the number of people in each area along with their sex and age group. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.info --part1_87.5561435.2d60e189_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 14/02/2004 23:24= :20 GMT Standard Time, mcginnis@arn.net writes:

My question---was there a censu= s in Somerset in 1831?  If so, would anyone be willing to look for me t= o see if there is a Tincknell family with a son George who would be abt 8 ye= ars old?


Hi Sandi, the 1831 Census does not give details of people [with a few except= ions], it simply records the number of people in each area along with their=20= sex and age group.
Regards Stan Mapstone
www.mapstone.info
--part1_87.5561435.2d60e189_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sun Feb 15 19:54:09 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Bob McGinnis) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004 13:54:09 -0600 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans References: <87.5561435.2d60e189@aol.com> Message-ID: <0e4601c3f3fd$7a6e72c0$1e8228d1@mcginnis> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0E43_01C3F3CB.2F239E80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks, Stan. Do you or any one else have any suggestions for finding = this George Tincknell born 1823? Sandi ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stanmapstone@aol.com=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [WED]William Roper/William Evans In a message dated 14/02/2004 23:24:20 GMT Standard Time, = mcginnis@arn.net writes: My question---was there a census in Somerset in 1831? If so, would = anyone be willing to look for me to see if there is a Tincknell family = with a son George who would be abt 8 years old?=20 Hi Sandi, the 1831 Census does not give details of people [with a few = exceptions], it simply records the number of people in each area along = with their sex and age group. Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.info ------=_NextPart_000_0E43_01C3F3CB.2F239E80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks, Stan.  Do you or any one = else have any=20 suggestions for finding this George Tincknell born 1823?
Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stanmapstone@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 = 8:51=20 AM
Subject: Re: [WED]William = Roper/William=20 Evans

In a = message dated=20 14/02/2004 23:24:20 GMT Standard Time, mcginnis@arn.net writes:

My question---was there a census in Somerset in = 1831?  If=20 so, would anyone be willing to look for me to see if there is a = Tincknell=20 family with a son George who would be abt 8 years old? =

Hi=20 Sandi, the 1831 Census does not give details of people [with a few=20 exceptions], it simply records the number of people in each area along = with=20 their sex and age group.
Regards Stan = Mapstone
www.mapstone.info
<= /FONT> ------=_NextPart_000_0E43_01C3F3CB.2F239E80-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Mon Feb 16 15:49:50 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 10:49:50 EST Subject: [WED]Evans/Thomas Families Message-ID: -------------------------------1076946589 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was recently interested in the talk about the Evans family, however mine seem to be a different line. My Elizabeth Thomas, b. 1837 in Cheddar, d. 1930 and buried in Wedmore, married George Evans Jr. for her 2nd husband. He was b. abt. 1848 in Wedmore. They had children, (1) Elizabeth Jane, b. 1868, who m. Gilbert Cooke; (2) William, b. 1871, marriage info inknown; and (3) Sarah Ann, b. 1872, m. John Fear. Does anyone on this list know further information about this Evans line? -------------------------------1076946589 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was recently interested in the= talk about the Evans family, however mine seem to be a different line. = ; My Elizabeth Thomas, b. 1837 in Cheddar, d. 1930 and buried in Wedmore, ma= rried George Evans Jr. for her 2nd husband.  He was b. abt. 1848 in Wed= more.  They had children, (1) Elizabeth Jane, b. 1868, who m. Gilb= ert Cooke; (2) William, b. 1871, marriage info inknown; and (3) Sarah Ann, b= . 1872, m. John Fear.  Does anyone on this list know further informatio= n about this Evans line? -------------------------------1076946589-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Mon Feb 16 17:52:28 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Howard Fear) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2004 17:52:28 -0000 Subject: [WED]Evans/Thomas Families References: Message-ID: <001e01c3f4b5$a5894300$dcd5ae51@Cybercom> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3F4B5.A4EE3B80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A lot of your names sound familiar. Then I realised we have compared = notes in the past--there was no match. My George EVANS was born in = Radnorshire 1859. The FEAR side are from Wedmore. Here are some of the = descndants of William. William John was known as John FEAR. Perhaps = someone will find a link: William FEAR (b.1821-Wedmore) sp: Elizabeth HOPKINS (b.1818/1820-Wookey;m.1846) William John FEAR (b.1852/1854-Wedmore Somerset; sp: Sarah Jane ELSON (b.1855-Coxley / Wells;m.1876; Ernest Henry FEAR (b.12 Dec 1875-Wookey;d.3 Mar 1949) sp: Mary Jane JONES (b.1872; Beatrice Agnes FEAR (b.13 Mar 1878-Wookey / Wells) sp: Pryce CHAPMAN Gilbert James FEAR (b.10 May 1880-North Wookey,Wells Somerset; sp: Myfanwy PARRY (b.27 Mar 1886-7 Gwendoline St Treherbert;m.24 May = 1904; Walter Edward FEAR (b.24 Sep 1882-Wookey; sp: UNKNOWN Bertie William John FEAR (b.20 Mar 1885) Wilfred Leopold FEAR (b.8 Nov 1887) sp: Maud ? Florence Minny FEAR (b.1891) Mervyn Thomas FEAR (b.1891) George FEAR (b.1846-Wedmore) Ann FEAR (b.1850-Wedmore) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: BLBSJOS@aol.com=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 3:49 PM Subject: [WED]Evans/Thomas Families I was recently interested in the talk about the Evans family, however = mine seem to be a different line. My Elizabeth Thomas, b. 1837 in = Cheddar, d. 1930 and buried in Wedmore, married George Evans Jr. for her = 2nd husband. He was b. abt. 1848 in Wedmore. They had children, (1) = Elizabeth Jane, b. 1868, who m. Gilbert Cooke; (2) William, b. 1871, = marriage info inknown; and (3) Sarah Ann, b. 1872, m. John Fear. Does = anyone on this list know further information about this Evans line? ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3F4B5.A4EE3B80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
A lot of your names sound familiar.  Then I realised we have = compared=20 notes in the past--there was no match.  My George EVANS was = born in=20 Radnorshire 1859.  The FEAR side are from Wedmore.  Here are = some of=20 the descndants of William.  William John was known as John = FEAR. =20 Perhaps someone will find a link:
 
William FEAR (b.1821-Wedmore)
   sp: Elizabeth HOPKINS = (b.1818/1820-Wookey;m.1846)
William John FEAR (b.1852/1854-Wedmore=20 Somerset;
   sp: Sarah Jane ELSON (b.1855-Coxley /=20 Wells;m.1876;
Ernest Henry FEAR (b.12 Dec 1875-Wookey;d.3 Mar=20 1949)
   sp: Mary Jane JONES (b.1872;
Beatrice Agnes = FEAR (b.13=20 Mar 1878-Wookey / Wells)
   sp: Pryce CHAPMAN
Gilbert = James FEAR=20 (b.10 May 1880-North Wookey,Wells Somerset;
   sp: Myfanwy = PARRY=20 (b.27 Mar 1886-7 Gwendoline St Treherbert;m.24 May 1904;
Walter = Edward FEAR=20 (b.24 Sep 1882-Wookey;
 sp: UNKNOWN
Bertie William John FEAR = (b.20=20 Mar 1885)
Wilfred Leopold FEAR (b.8 Nov 1887)
   sp: = Maud=20 ?
Florence Minny FEAR (b.1891)
Mervyn Thomas FEAR = (b.1891)
George FEAR=20 (b.1846-Wedmore)
Ann FEAR (b.1850-Wedmore)
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 BLBSJOS@aol.com=20
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 = 3:49=20 PM
Subject: [WED]Evans/Thomas = Families

I was recently = interested=20 in the talk about the Evans family, however mine seem to be a = different=20 line.  My Elizabeth Thomas, b. 1837 in Cheddar, d. 1930 and = buried in=20 Wedmore, married George Evans Jr. for her 2nd husband.  He was b. = abt.=20 1848 in Wedmore.  They had children, (1) Elizabeth Jane, b. = 1868,=20 who m. Gilbert Cooke; (2) William, b. 1871, marriage info inknown; and = (3)=20 Sarah Ann, b. 1872, m. John Fear.  Does anyone on this list know = further=20 information about this Evans line? ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C3F4B5.A4EE3B80-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 17 22:11:54 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Fay Edgar) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:11:54 +1300 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans References: <9f.43a7abaa.2d5ec7e1@aol.com> Message-ID: <000b01c3f5a3$307eda40$9bd3adcb@b4a0q1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3F610.04243FE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Joy, I have in my Brown family a William Evans who married Sarah Brown in = Wedmore 7 March, 1820. Sarah was the daughter of Edward Brown and Ann = Clark of Mudgley.Her sister Maria married Richard Evans but I don't = think these Evans are from the same family. William Evans (of = Bridgewater) was an executor of Ann Brown's will, 9 October 1847. In = another part of the will Sarah Evans was said to be of Brinscombe. I = have not found it on my maps. Sarah's siblings married into the families of Hill, Toogood, Tyley and Pook. Further back in the Pook family is Ann Roper who married = Charles Boon in 1758. Hope this is helpful, Fay Edgar ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DavedeSR@aol.com=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Saturday, 14 February 2004 13:37 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Hi, =20 I'm new to the list and wondered if anyone had further information = on the above or their spouses. I have William Roper b unk d 2-24-1798 = married Anne Williams 1771. I descend from their son Hugh Roper b abt. = 1774, Wedmore d April 8, 1846, Crickham. (My cousins Sandi and Kristin = who are on this list, also descend from Hugh and William Roper.) My = line from Hugh and his second wife Jane Davis is his daughter Jane Roper = who married Samuel Evans, February 28, 1849, Axbridge. Samuel Evans = father was William Evans birthdate unk. who we believe was born in = Bristol. I do not know the wife of William Evans. Their children were = Samuel Evans b 1823, Cheddar or Bristol, Forest Evans b 1815 m Eliza = McDonigal, Flower Evans b Abt. 1812 m John Irish, Fannie Evans b Abt. = 1818, m John Lumber, Elizabeth Evans, Harriet Evans, Sarah Evans b abt. = 1822, and Edwin Evans b 1825. Most of the children were married in = Axbridge. We believe that they were living in Cheddar and grew up there = but may not have all been born there. Also, I have no information for = Jane Davis, Hugh Roper's second wife. Her birth years vary from 1874 to = 1894, however, I believe it may have been closer to 1884. I have not = found a marriage record yet for her and Hugh.=20 Any idea on how to locate more information? Thank you for any help.=20 Joy in California=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3F610.04243FE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Joy,
 
I have in my Brown family a William Evans who = married Sarah=20 Brown in Wedmore 7 March, 1820. Sarah was the daughter of Edward Brown = and Ann=20 Clark of Mudgley.Her sister Maria married Richard Evans but I don't = think=20 these Evans are from the same family. William Evans (of Bridgewater) was = an=20 executor of Ann Brown's will, 9 October 1847. In another part of the = will Sarah=20 Evans was said to be of Brinscombe. I have not found it on my = maps.
Sarah's siblings married into the families of Hill,=20 Toogood,
Tyley and Pook. Further back in the Pook family is = Ann Roper=20 who married Charles Boon in 1758.
 
Hope this is helpful,
 
Fay Edgar
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 DavedeSR@aol.com=20
Sent: Saturday, 14 February = 2004=20 13:37
Subject: [WED]William = Roper/William=20 Evans

Hi,  =20
    I'm new to the list and wondered if anyone = had=20 further information on the above or their spouses.  I have = William Roper=20 b unk d 2-24-1798 married Anne Williams 1771.  I descend from = their son=20 Hugh Roper b abt. 1774, Wedmore d April 8, 1846, Crickham.  (My = cousins=20 Sandi and Kristin who are on this list, also descend from Hugh and = William=20 Roper.)  My line from Hugh and his second wife Jane Davis is his = daughter=20 Jane Roper who married Samuel Evans, February 28, 1849, Axbridge. =  Samuel=20 Evans father was William Evans birthdate unk. who we believe was born = in=20 Bristol.  I do not know the wife of William Evans.  Their = children=20 were Samuel Evans b 1823, Cheddar or Bristol, Forest Evans b 1815 m = Eliza=20 McDonigal, Flower Evans b Abt. 1812 m John Irish, Fannie Evans b Abt. = 1818, m=20 John Lumber, Elizabeth Evans, Harriet Evans, Sarah Evans b abt. 1822, = and=20 Edwin Evans b 1825.  Most of the children were married in = Axbridge.=20  We believe that they were living in Cheddar and grew up there = but may=20 not have all been born there.  Also, I have no information for = Jane=20 Davis, Hugh Roper's second wife.  Her birth years vary from 1874 = to 1894,=20 however, I believe it may have been closer to 1884.  I have not = found a=20 marriage record yet for her and Hugh.
Any idea on how to locate = more=20 information?  Thank you for any help.
Joy in = California
=20
------=_NextPart_000_0008_01C3F610.04243FE0-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 17 22:28:22 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:28:22 EST Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Message-ID: <103.3f6e68d3.2d63ef86@aol.com> --part1_103.3f6e68d3.2d63ef86_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 17/02/2004 22:13:39 GMT Standard Time, fayedgar@ihug.co.nz writes: > In another part of the will Sarah Evans was said to be of Brinscombe. I > have not found it on my maps. You will find Brinscombe by using the Ordnance Survey Gazetteer at http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/freefun/didyouknow/ Regards Stan Mapstone www.mapstone.info --part1_103.3f6e68d3.2d63ef86_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable In a message dated 17/02/2004 22:13= :39 GMT Standard Time, fayedgar@ihug.co.nz writes:

In another part of the will Sar= ah Evans was said to be of Brinscombe. I have not found it on my maps.

You will find Brinscombe by using  the Ordnance Survey Gazetteer at htt= p://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/freefun/didyouknow/
Regards Stan Mapstone
www.mapstone.info
--part1_103.3f6e68d3.2d63ef86_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 17 23:17:08 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:17:08 EST Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans Message-ID: <146.223672e8.2d63faf4@aol.com> --part1_146.223672e8.2d63faf4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stan, --part1_146.223672e8.2d63faf4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stan, --part1_146.223672e8.2d63faf4_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 17 23:33:18 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 18:33:18 EST Subject: [WED]William Evans/William Roper Message-ID: <11a.2e6d2bfc.2d63febe@aol.com> --part1_11a.2e6d2bfc.2d63febe_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Fay and Stan, I just don't know if this is the correct family or not. Many of the Evans children would have been before the March 1820 wedding date of Sarah Brown and William Evans. When Samuel Evans married Jane Roper registered in Axbridge in 1849, Samuel was listed as from Cheddar. I have seen other references from his siblings as being from Cheddar also. However, his father, William Evans, from family notes said that William was from Bristol. The only other information I have is the names of siblings. Also family information that Samuel, Jane, and James Hill were childhood friends. So I presume they lived in the same area. James Hill was also from Somerset and was the Baptist minister for the small church in Rockville, Iowa, where the families migrated. If I had a date of death for William Evans, that would help. But, I don't. Family notes say he lived to be 94. Thank you for your help, Joy --part1_11a.2e6d2bfc.2d63febe_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Fay and St= an,
    I just don't know if this is the correct family= or not. Many of the Evans children would have been before the March 1820 we= dding date of Sarah Brown and William Evans. When Samuel Evans married Jane=20= Roper registered in Axbridge in 1849, Samuel was listed as from Cheddar. &nb= sp;I have seen other references from his siblings as being from Cheddar also= .  However, his father, William Evans, from family notes said that Will= iam was from Bristol.  The only other information I have is the names o= f siblings.  Also family information that Samuel, Jane, and James Hill=20= were childhood friends. So I presume they lived in the same area.  Jame= s Hill was also from Somerset and was the Baptist minister for the small chu= rch in Rockville, Iowa, where the families migrated.=20
    If I had a date of death for William Evans, tha= t would help.  But, I don't.  Family notes say he lived to be 94.
Thank you for your help,
Joy
--part1_11a.2e6d2bfc.2d63febe_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Wed Feb 18 09:19:53 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (wedmore@lists.tutton.org) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 04:19:53 EST Subject: [WED]William Evans/William Roper Message-ID: <19e.205be230.2d648839@aol.com> --part1_19e.205be230.2d648839_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Joy, I've just seen your second email, so ignore my previous one. Regards Stan Mapstone --part1_19e.205be230.2d648839_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Joy,
I've just seen your second email, so ignore my previous one.

Regards Stan Mapstone --part1_19e.205be230.2d648839_boundary-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Feb 19 04:04:02 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Fay Edgar) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 17:04:02 +1300 Subject: [WED]William Roper/William Evans References: <103.3f6e68d3.2d63ef86@aol.com> Message-ID: <001801c3f6a4$a76b4380$a2daadcb@b4a0q1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3F70A.6009E260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Stan, Thank you for the ordnance map site. It is much easier to use than = previous ones i have visited. Regards, Fay ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stanmapstone@aol.com=20 To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, 18 February 2004 11:28 Subject: Re: [WED]William Roper/William Evans In a message dated 17/02/2004 22:13:39 GMT Standard Time, = fayedgar@ihug.co.nz writes: ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3F70A.6009E260 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Stan,
 
Thank you for the ordnance map site. It is much = easier to use=20 than previous ones i have visited.
 
Regards,
 
Fay
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stanmapstone@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, 18 February = 2004=20 11:28
Subject: Re: [WED]William = Roper/William=20 Evans

In a message dated 17/02/2004 = 22:13:39 GMT=20 Standard Time, fayedgar@ihug.co.nz=20 writes:

------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C3F70A.6009E260-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Tue Feb 17 17:10:47 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Mathew Ducket) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:10:47 -0000 Subject: [WED]More Pophams Message-ID: <000c01c3f708$4261a380$f4f77ad5@cottage> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Kristen, I have been looking over my notes again. I have obviously = misread Henry's age on his gravestone, your information says he died = aged 85, I had thought it was 81. This confirms his date of birth as = 1792. As a result I can be certain of the next generation back. George Popham married Mary Tucker 12 10 1780. George (of Westham) was = buried 20 3 1795. Mary (of Westham) was buried 29 6 1827, aged 74. Their = children were, 1) Gabriel baptised 26 7 1782, 2) Stephen baptised 2 8 = 1784, 3) blank baptised 24 1 1789, 4) Matthew baptised 2 2 1790, 5) = Henry baptised 4 10 1792, 6) Phoebe baptised 31 5 1795 (daughter of Mary = Popham, widow). Mary Popham was baptised 12 11 1753, daughter of Henry = and Jane Tucker. George Popham may have been baptised 12 4 1757, son of = George and Mary Popham.=20 The map that I mentioned shows, Mrs. Popham farming at Yew Tree Farm, = Westham with Stephen next door. Henry is in Blackford. The map shows = Blackford Church, this was built in 1825, so the map must be between = 1825 and 1827. My notes confirm that Henry was farming at Westham in = 1841, but I can't work out which farm he was at, Stephen has = disappeared. This means that "your Henry" above can not be the brother = of "my Jane and Phoebe", as Phoebe was born in 1819 and Jane was married = in 1835, and so was probably born around about 1810. It also means that = the paintings may not be Henry above; this needs more work, but I still = think they are closely related. Matthew. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Kristen, I have been looking over my notes again. = I have=20 obviously misread Henry's age on his gravestone, your information says = he died=20 aged 85, I had thought it was 81. This confirms his date of birth as = 1792. As a=20 result I can be certain of the next generation back.
George Popham married Mary Tucker 12 10  1780. = George (of=20 Westham) was buried 20 3 1795. Mary (of Westham) was buried 29 6 1827, = aged 74.=20 Their children were, 1) Gabriel baptised 26 7 1782, 2) Stephen baptised = 2 8=20 1784, 3) blank baptised 24 1 1789, 4) Matthew baptised 2 2 = 1790, 5)=20 Henry baptised 4 10 1792, 6) Phoebe baptised 31 5 1795 (daughter of Mary = Popham,=20 widow). Mary Popham was baptised 12 11 1753, daughter of Henry and Jane=20 Tucker. George Popham may have been baptised 12 4 1757, son of = George and=20 Mary Popham.
The map that I mentioned shows,  Mrs. Popham = farming at=20 Yew Tree Farm, Westham with Stephen next door. Henry is in Blackford. = The map=20 shows Blackford Church, this was built in 1825, so the map must be = between 1825=20 and 1827. My notes confirm that Henry was farming at Westham in 1841, = but I=20 can't work out which farm he was at, Stephen has disappeared. = This=20 means that "your Henry" above can not be the brother of "my Jane = and=20 Phoebe", as Phoebe was born in 1819 and Jane was married in 1835, and so = was=20 probably born around about 1810. It also means that the paintings may = not be=20 Henry above; this needs more work, but I still think they are closely = related.=20 Matthew.
------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Feb 21 19:04:31 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Cory & Kristen) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2004 13:04:31 -0600 Subject: [WED]Re: More Pophams References: <20040220061931.BC24A61CAD@mailman.siteprotect.com> Message-ID: <005d01c3f8ad$8cd759e0$b52d48ce@maxwell> Mathew, Thank you for the correction. There is a Bio on Stephan Popham who Married Rosina Duckett on www.rootsweb.com/~iadelawa/bios/1914/pophamstephenbio.htm Kris ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 12:19 AM Subject: Wedmore digest, Vol 1 #390 - 1 msg > Send Wedmore mailing list submissions to > wedmore@lists.tutton.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wedmore-request@lists.tutton.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wedmore-admin@lists.tutton.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Wedmore digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. More Pophams (Mathew Ducket) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > From: "Mathew Ducket" > To: > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:10:47 -0000 > Subject: [WED]More Pophams > Reply-To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Hi Kristen, I have been looking over my notes again. I have obviously = > misread Henry's age on his gravestone, your information says he died = > aged 85, I had thought it was 81. This confirms his date of birth as = > 1792. As a result I can be certain of the next generation back. > George Popham married Mary Tucker 12 10 1780. George (of Westham) was = > buried 20 3 1795. Mary (of Westham) was buried 29 6 1827, aged 74. Their = > children were, 1) Gabriel baptised 26 7 1782, 2) Stephen baptised 2 8 = > 1784, 3) blank baptised 24 1 1789, 4) Matthew baptised 2 2 1790, 5) = > Henry baptised 4 10 1792, 6) Phoebe baptised 31 5 1795 (daughter of Mary = > Popham, widow). Mary Popham was baptised 12 11 1753, daughter of Henry = > and Jane Tucker. George Popham may have been baptised 12 4 1757, son of = > George and Mary Popham.=20 > The map that I mentioned shows, Mrs. Popham farming at Yew Tree Farm, = > Westham with Stephen next door. Henry is in Blackford. The map shows = > Blackford Church, this was built in 1825, so the map must be between = > 1825 and 1827. My notes confirm that Henry was farming at Westham in = > 1841, but I can't work out which farm he was at, Stephen has = > disappeared. This means that "your Henry" above can not be the brother = > of "my Jane and Phoebe", as Phoebe was born in 1819 and Jane was married = > in 1835, and so was probably born around about 1810. It also means that = > the paintings may not be Henry above; this needs more work, but I still = > think they are closely related. Matthew. > > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400 > Content-Type: text/html; > charset="iso-8859-1" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > > charset=3Diso-8859-1"> > > > > >
Hi Kristen, I have been looking over my notes again. = > I have=20 > obviously misread Henry's age on his gravestone, your information says = > he died=20 > aged 85, I had thought it was 81. This confirms his date of birth as = > 1792. As a=20 > result I can be certain of the next generation back.
>
George Popham married Mary Tucker 12 10  1780. = > George (of=20 > Westham) was buried 20 3 1795. Mary (of Westham) was buried 29 6 1827, = > aged 74.=20 > Their children were, 1) Gabriel baptised 26 7 1782, 2) Stephen baptised = > 2 8=20 > 1784, 3) blank baptised 24 1 1789, 4) Matthew baptised 2 2 = > 1790, 5)=20 > Henry baptised 4 10 1792, 6) Phoebe baptised 31 5 1795 (daughter of Mary = > Popham,=20 > widow). Mary Popham was baptised 12 11 1753, daughter of Henry and Jane=20 > Tucker. George Popham may have been baptised 12 4 1757, son of = > George and=20 > Mary Popham.
>
The map that I mentioned shows,  Mrs. Popham = > farming at=20 > Yew Tree Farm, Westham with Stephen next door. Henry is in Blackford. = > The map=20 > shows Blackford Church, this was built in 1825, so the map must be = > between 1825=20 > and 1827. My notes confirm that Henry was farming at Westham in 1841, = > but I=20 > can't work out which farm he was at, Stephen has disappeared. = > This=20 > means that "your Henry" above can not be the brother of "my Jane = > and=20 > Phoebe", as Phoebe was born in 1819 and Jane was married in 1835, and so = > was=20 > probably born around about 1810. It also means that the paintings may = > not be=20 > Henry above; this needs more work, but I still think they are closely = > related.=20 > Matthew.
> > ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C3F578.FC427400-- > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Wedmore mailing list > Wedmore@lists.tutton.org > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > > Wedmore Web Site at: http://www.tutton.org > > > End of Wedmore Digest > > From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Thu Feb 26 23:37:03 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Russell Binning) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 15:37:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WED]Binning Line in Wedmore Message-ID: <20040226233703.83152.qmail@web41705.mail.yahoo.com> My Binning Line came to America in latter part of 1850's. I am looking for the father of Stephen Binning. Only know that Stephen's wife's first name is Mary. His son Charles is my direct ancestor. If anyone knows more about the Binning line, please advise. Many thanks. Russell Binning __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Fri Feb 27 00:54:51 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Bob McGinnis) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2004 18:54:51 -0600 Subject: [WED]ROPER Message-ID: <004d01c3fccc$4f3cd2e0$22b60645@mcginnis> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C3FC9A.039C1670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Wondering if anyone has a current e-mail address for Paul ROPER in = Somerset, New Jersey? He was on the list a couple of years ago. Thanks, Sandi McGinnis ------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C3FC9A.039C1670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Wondering if anyone has a current = e-mail address=20 for Paul ROPER in Somerset, New Jersey?  He was on the list a = couple of=20 years ago.
Thanks,
Sandi = McGinnis
------=_NextPart_000_004A_01C3FC9A.039C1670-- From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Fri Feb 27 22:36:16 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Mike Durtnall) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 22:36:16 +0000 Subject: [WED]RE: Binning Message-ID: Hi Russell There was a Stephen BINNING baptised at Mark, next door to Wedmore, on 3 March 1826, son of John & Mary. John was a farmer. Does this sound like your Stephen? You can view the registers of Mark on my website at: www.durtnall.org.uk/index.html Regards Mike Durtnall Bracknell, UK _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Fri Feb 27 23:52:09 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Russell Binning) Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:52:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [WED]RE: Binning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20040227235209.78856.qmail@web41704.mail.yahoo.com> Mike, Thanks for the email. No.The one I am referring to was born in late 1700's. I not sure who this is. At present hard for me to link the other Binning's to my ancestors. Stephen is the farthest I go. He is my gggreat grandfather and all I know is he lived in Wedmore area. I have his death date in Wedmore from the other sites. Thanks for your assistance. I have been on your site and it is outstanding with all the baptism records. In fact almost all of Stephen's children are there. All the best, Russell --- Mike Durtnall wrote: > Hi Russell > > There was a Stephen BINNING baptised at Mark, next > door to Wedmore, on 3 > March 1826, son of John & Mary. John was a farmer. > Does this sound like your > Stephen? > > You can view the registers of Mark on my website at: > > www.durtnall.org.uk/index.html > > Regards > > Mike Durtnall > Bracknell, UK > > _________________________________________________________________ > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN > Messenger today! > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > _______________________________________________ > Wedmore mailing list > Wedmore@lists.tutton.org > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > > Wedmore Web Site > at: http://www.tutton.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Feb 28 00:10:46 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Lyn Nunn) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 10:10:46 +1000 Subject: [WED]RE: Binning References: <20040227235209.78856.qmail@web41704.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <024d01c3fd8f$5082b5c0$2d858890@starfury> Hi Russell Just looking through some of my resources re ownership of land - I see the name Benning in 1791 ... and 1778 but no Binning might be worth checking under that variation. regards Lyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Russell Binning" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2004 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [WED]RE: Binning > Mike, > Thanks for the email. No.The one I am referring to was > born in late 1700's. I not sure who this is. At > present hard for me to link the other Binning's to my > ancestors. Stephen is the farthest I go. He is my > gggreat grandfather and all I know is he lived in > Wedmore area. I have his death date in Wedmore from > the other sites. > Thanks for your assistance. I have been on your site > and it is outstanding with all the baptism records. In > fact almost all of Stephen's children are there. > All the best, > Russell > --- Mike Durtnall wrote: > > Hi Russell > > > > There was a Stephen BINNING baptised at Mark, next > > door to Wedmore, on 3 > > March 1826, son of John & Mary. John was a farmer. > > Does this sound like your > > Stephen? > > > > You can view the registers of Mark on my website at: > > > > www.durtnall.org.uk/index.html > > > > Regards > > > > Mike Durtnall > > Bracknell, UK > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN > > Messenger today! > > http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wedmore mailing list > > Wedmore@lists.tutton.org > > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > > > > Wedmore Web Site > > at: http://www.tutton.org > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Get better spam protection with Yahoo! Mail. > http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools > _______________________________________________ > Wedmore mailing list > Wedmore@lists.tutton.org > http://lists.tutton.org/mailman/listinfo/wedmore > > Wedmore Web Site > at: http://www.tutton.org From wedmore@lists.tutton.org Sat Feb 28 22:52:51 2004 From: wedmore@lists.tutton.org (Fay Edgar) Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 11:52:51 +1300 Subject: [WED]Edward & Hester Brown Message-ID: <000c01c3fe4d$ba017360$05d4adcb@b4a0q1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0009_01C3FEBA.8EE74840 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello All, Does anyone have a Hester in the family who married Edward Brown before = 1851? 1841 Census for Mudgley Brown Ann 60 Farmer b. Somerset Edward 40 Farmer b. Somerset (Ann died in 1847) 1851 Census for Mudgley Brown Edward 53 Ret. Farmer b. Wookey Hester 50 b. Wedmore Any help would be appreciated. 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Hello All,
 
Does anyone have a Hester in the family who married = Edward=20 Brown before 1851?
 
1841 Census for Mudgley
 
Brown  =20 Ann           =20  60        Farmer  b.=20 Somerset
          =20  Edward       =20 40        Farmer =20 b. Somerset
          &nbs= p;            = ; =20 (Ann died in 1847)
 
1851 Census for Mudgley
 
Brown  =20 Edward       =20 53       Ret. Farmer   b.=20 Wookey
          &nbs= p;=20 Hester        =20 50            = ;            = =20    b. Wedmore
 
Any help would be appreciated.
 
Thanks,
 
Fay
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