[WED]Re: Wedmore digest, Vol 1 #471 - 4 msgs: Helliers
Tim Curtin
wedmore@lists.tutton.org
Mon, 8 Nov 2004 17:20:28 +1100
In reply to Bonnie Sheppard, John Hellier 46 cordwainer born in Othery was
living in Wedmore in 1851 with his wife Harriet and 5 children, all said to
have been born in Wedmore although apparently not baptised in St Mary's.
Tim Curtin
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> From: "John Hayward" <jvhayward@suffolkonline.net>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 17:10:20 -0000
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> I have no record of a Hellior baptised at St. Marys, C. of E. at Wedmore =
> 1812 - 1900.
>
> John V Hayward
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> From: Sheppard=20
> To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
> Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2004 2:48 AM
> Subject: [WED]the helliers
>
>
> i have a cousin who is a hellier and his family came from
> wedmore. i remember not too long ago there was a person,
> or persons, inquirring about the hellier's from wemore on
> this web sight. i would like to be here from anyone who
> has helliers from wedmore, so that i may put them in touch
> with my cousin, tom hellier. he is most anxious to be in touch.
> thank you.=20
> b. sheppard from new york,usa
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I have no record of a Hellior =
> baptised at St.=20
> Marys, C. of E. at Wedmore 1812 - 1900.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>John V Hayward</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dnana6404@localnet.com=20
> href=3D"mailto:nana6404@localnet.com">Sheppard</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dwedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
> href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 06, =
> 2004 2:48=20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [WED]the =
> helliers</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>i have a =
> cousin who is a=20
> hellier and his family came from</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>wedmore. i =
> remember not=20
> too long ago there was a person,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>or persons, =
> inquirring=20
> about the hellier's from wemore on</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>this web =
> sight. i would=20
> like to be here from anyone who</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>has helliers =
> from wedmore,=20
> so that i may put them in touch</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>with my =
> cousin, tom=20
> hellier. he is most anxious to be in touch.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>thank you. =
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3D"Book Antiqua" color=3D#800000 size=3D4>b. sheppard =
> from new=20
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> From: Jllove65@cs.com
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:50:56 EST
> Subject: Re: [WED]Wedmore to Cayuga & Onondaga
> To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org
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> Is there any place to get the info as to who left Wedmore??
> I guess you can see I have blonde moments a lot
>
> Linda Neadle Lovell
>
>
>
> In a message dated 11/4/2004 6:14:58 AM Central Standard Time,
> jvhayward@suffolkonline.net writes:
>> Somewhere I read some 60 families went from Wedmore alone, mostly to
>> Iowa.
>> Some of mine did and are now all over the USA.
>>
>> John V Hayward
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> =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Is there any place to get the
> info=20=
> as to who left Wedmore??<BR>
> I guess you can see I have blonde moments a lot<BR>
> <BR>
> Linda Neadle Lovell<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> In a message dated 11/4/2004 6:14:58 AM Central Standard Time,
> jvhayward@suf=
> folkonline.net writes: <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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> : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Somewhere I read some 60
> famili=
> es went from Wedmore alone, mostly to Iowa. Some of mine did and are now
> all=
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> From: Jllove65@cs.com
> Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 20:58:33 EST
> Subject: Re: [WED]Wedmore to Cayuga& Onondaga, New York
> To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org
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> In a message dated 11/4/2004 5:34:23 PM Central Standard Time,
> Did they baptise a person 12 years after they were born?? because the
> marriage certificate says he was 24 and the marriage date was Mar 31, 1864
> and father George Lovell a dealer also wittnessed by John Fisher and
> Harriet
> Lovell who would these people be?
>
> thank You
> Linda Neadle LOVELL
>
>
>
>
>
> jvhayward@suffolkonline.net writes:
>>
>> A William Lovell was baptised 2/05/1852, there were non at St. Marys a
>> few
>> years before this. His parents were George and Elizabeth Lovell, a
>> labourer
>> of Heath House. (page 245, record 1956).
>>
>> I suggest he may be your man!
>>
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> =3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">In a message dated 11/4/2004
> 5:34:2=
> 3 PM Central Standard Time, <BR>
> Did they baptise a person 12 years after they were born?? because the
> marria=
> ge certificate says he was 24 and the marriage date was Mar 31, 1864<BR>
> and father George Lovell a dealer also wittnessed by John Fisher and
> Harriet=
> Lovell who would these people be?<BR>
> <BR>
> thank You<BR>
> Linda Neadle LOVELL<BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
> <BR>
><BR>
> jvhayward@suffolkonline.net writes: <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3DCITE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid;
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> : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR>
> A William Lovell was baptised 2/05/1852, there were non at St. Marys
> a=
> few years before this. His parents were George and Elizabeth Lovell, a
> labo=
> urer of Heath House. (page 245, record 1956).</FONT><FONT
> COLOR=3D"#000000"=
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> Message: 4
> From: "Lyn Nunn" <lnunn@bigpond.net.au>
> To: <wedmore@lists.tutton.org>
> Subject: Re: [WED]Wedmore to Cayuga& Onondaga, New York
> Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 12:16:46 +1000
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> Hi Linda,
>
> They did sometimes baptise people who weren't infants for various =
> reasons like change of religion or it was missed because parents were =
> travelling about and mother wanted child baptised in her home parish and =
> it took that long to get back there or around to it. 12 is about the =
> usual age for C of E confirmation too so perhaps he needed to be =
> baptised before being confirmed. I have a Simon Tincknell baptised at =
> age 22. You would need to look at the actual registers to see if there =
> was a note to say how old he was but the absence of a note, in my mind, =
> doesn't prove he was an infant.=20
>
> The witnesses at a marriage could be family/friends or John Fisher may =
> have been the parish clerk at the time.
>
> regards
>
> Lyn
> In Oz.
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Jllove65@cs.com=20
> To: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 11:58 AM
> Subject: Re: [WED]Wedmore to Cayuga& Onondaga, New York
>
>
> In a message dated 11/4/2004 5:34:23 PM Central Standard Time,=20
> Did they baptise a person 12 years after they were born?? because the =
> marriage certificate says he was 24 and the marriage date was Mar 31, =
> 1864
> and father George Lovell a dealer also wittnessed by John Fisher and =
> Harriet Lovell who would these people be?
>
> thank You
> Linda Neadle LOVELL
>
>
>
>
>
> jvhayward@suffolkonline.net writes:=20
>
>
> A William Lovell was baptised 2/05/1852, there were non at St. =
> Marys a few years before this. His parents were George and Elizabeth =
> Lovell, a labourer of Heath House. (page 245, record 1956).
> =20
> I suggest he may be your man!
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>
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Linda,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>They did sometimes baptise people who =
> weren't=20
> infants for various reasons like change of religion or it was missed =
> because=20
> parents were travelling about and mother wanted child baptised in =
> her home=20
> parish and it took that long to get back there or around to it. 12 is =
> about the=20
> usual age for C of E confirmation too so perhaps he needed to be =
> baptised before=20
> being confirmed. I have a Simon Tincknell baptised at age 22. You =
> would=20
> need to look at the actual registers to see if there was a note to say =
> how old=20
> he was but the absence of a note, in my mind, doesn't prove he was =
> an=20
> infant. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The witnesses at a marriage could be =
> family/friends=20
> or John Fisher may have been the parish clerk at the time.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>regards</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lyn</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In Oz.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
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> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3DJllove65@cs.com =
> href=3D"mailto:Jllove65@cs.com">Jllove65@cs.com</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Dwedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
> href=3D"mailto:wedmore@lists.tutton.org">wedmore@lists.tutton.org</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 08, 2004 =
> 11:58=20
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [WED]Wedmore to =
> Cayuga&=20
> Onondaga, New York</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D0 =
> face=3DArial size=3D2=20
> FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"10">In a message dated 11/4/2004 =
> 5:34:23 PM Central=20
> Standard Time, <BR>Did they baptise a person 12 years after they were =
> born??=20
> because the marriage certificate says he was 24 and the marriage date =
> was Mar=20
> 31, 1864<BR>and father George Lovell a dealer also wittnessed by John =
> Fisher=20
> and Harriet Lovell who would these people be?<BR><BR>thank =
> You<BR>Linda Neadle=20
> LOVELL<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>jvhayward@suffolkonline.net writes: <BR>
> <BLOCKQUOTE=20
> style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px =
> solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"=20
> TYPE=3D"CITE"><BR>A William Lovell was baptised 2/05/1852, there =
> were=20
> non at St. Marys a few years before this. His parents were George =
> and=20
> Elizabeth Lovell, a labourer of Heath House. (page 245, record=20
> 1956).</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
> face=3DArial=20
> color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"12"=20
> BACK=3D"#ffffff"><BR> <BR></FONT><FONT lang=3D0=20
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> size=3D2=20
> FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"10" BACK=3D"#ffffff">I suggest he may =
> be your=20
> man!</FONT><FONT lang=3D0 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" =
> face=3DArial=20
> color=3D#000000 size=3D3 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"12"=20
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