Michael, I'm unable to contact you off-list so hope you don't mind doing it this way. Can you recall in Toronto when we tried to find if we had a match with Tutton's? I thought my Ann Tutton was dau of James, but we now know she was dau of George Tutton & Jane Starr. George was grandson of Benjamin Tutton b 1675 & Deborah Taylor b 1677. The rest is history !! Does this make sense to you? steve