[WED]Wedmore to Iowa. Do you know the ship and date ?

[Mary Thacher]

Re ships on which Somerset people went to Iowa:

I have spent days in the National Archives in Washington reading passenger
manifests and found the ship on which John Young (wife Jane Dyer) and family
came was the Sarah Sands, a steamship, which sailed 7 aug 1848 from
Liverpool, William Thompson master.

This was the same ship on which the familes of James Dyer Sr, John Dyer
(wife Hester Tiley) and family, including her brother Paul Tiley, and James
Plaister (son in law, wife Mary Dyer) came a year later, sailing from
Liverpool on 29 March 1849 and arriving in NYC 2 May 1849.

Obviously it is better to check out the index list with the passenger list,
as the Sarah Sands was mislisted as Sarah Arnold per Mr. Roper's list of
February 2001.

Re James Dyer jr and Ann Andrews his wife and family: I was  not able to
find them on any passenger list.  However there his part of an invoice which
indicated that they sailed on 14August 1847.  Corresponding with the
Merseyside Marine Museum in Liverpool, it was confirmed that the
Quadalquivir, James Hoskins master, was the only ship which sailed to NYC
from Liverpool on that day.  Furthermore James Dyer in his correspondance
speaks of the extra expense.  It could be that they decided late in the day,
after the passenger list had been made out, to take that passage, and the
captain did not bother to update it!  He was lucky not to have gone on the
ship Halbach says he did, that had hundreds of passengers, the Quadalquivir
only had 32.

The Irish called the really crowded ships "coffin ships" and when you see
the passenger lists you can imagine how awful they must have been.

Mary Thacher
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mary Jackes" <mjackes@telusplanet.net>
To: <wedmore@lists.tutton.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: [WED]Wedmore to Iowa. Do you know the ship and date ?


> Elaine,
>
> It seems likely that it was not just one ship, but several, over a number
> of years.
>
> A while ago I posted the names of the Somerset people who early on swore
> oaths in Dubuque County Iowa of their intention to be naturalized.  Some
of
> the men (no women, of course) swore their oaths after it bacame mandatory
> to state the date of arrival.  The following are people I know for certain
> came from Somerset.  The Talbot's home parish is uncertain (certainly near
> Wedmore), but the others are either from Wedmore or the adjoining Weare
> parish.
>
> Robert Whitting 29th May 1848
> Daniel Day 1st May 1849
> John Counsell 1st May 1849
> Samuel Pitman 27th May 1849
> Henry Talbot July 1849
> Richard Baker 4th May 1850
> Arthur Day 17th May 1850
> William Pittman 2nd June 1851
> William Talbot 16th May 1852
> Abraham Keen 23rd May 1853
>
> Roger Roper posted a message at
>
> http://lists.tutton.org/pipermail/wedmore/2002-February/000423.html
>
> with some of the ships' passengers (with Wedmore to Banwell area surnames)
> listed for the following dates:-
>
> July 10 1848
> Aug 28 1848
> September 11 1848
> May 2 1849 (two ships)
> June 27 1849
>
> It seems that the main big group of the first Somerset Iowa settlers
landed
> in New York on May 1 or 2, 1849 but that others had preceded them the year
> before to get things set up.  Quite impressive organization!
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> Mary Jackes
> Edmonton, Alberta, T6G 0N8, Canada.
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