[WED]Fw: New Comment on Your Family Tree

Bob & Sandi McGinnis mcginnis@arn.net
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Mary and all on the Wedmore list,
I am another descendant of Wedmore ancestors who went on to the =
Dyersville, Iowa area.  I descend from Hugh and Jane Davis Roper of =
Wedmore.  After Hugh's death, his wife Jane and his 3 daughters & son =
John arrived in Wisconsin between 1848 and 1850.  All 3 daughters and =
their families moved to the Dyersville area in 1853.  My direct line is =
through Hugh & Jane's daughter Betsey Roper Tincknell b 1819 Wedmore, d. =
12 Dec 1907 in Alta, Buena Vista County, Iowa.

I would be very much interested in learning more about Emmett Polder's =
book when it is available.
Thank you,
Sandi McGinnis
Amarillo, TX
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mary m thacher=20
  To: jvhayward@suffolkonline.net=20
  Cc: wedmore@lists.tutton.org=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:46 PM
  Subject: [WED]Fw: New Comment on Your Family Tree


  Dear John Hayward,


  Hope you are still working on Wedmore!  I understand that Emmett =
Polder who died in January 2009 wrote a book on the English families in =
Iowa, which should be appearing soon, and should be of interest to your =
Wedmore group.  I will let you know when I hear it is out.

  Perhaps you can help on this little mystery!

  With all good wishes,

  Mary Thacher

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: mary m thacher=20
  To: Robert McDermott=20
  Cc: John Hayward=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:48 PM
  Subject: Re: New Comment on Your Family Tree


  Dear Bob,

  Thanks for sending that on to me.  I have not given much thought to =
the Dyersville families lately and after getting this email I went back =
to my files and found the following

  On the Wedmore website, there are two cousins, John Hayward of England =
and Tim Curtin of Australia who wrote to me about the Dyer, Burnett and =
Tyley families  John Hayward has a family tree site on ancestry.com.

  He says that Hester Tyley, wife of James Dyer (1792-1884) was the =
daughter of William Tyley and  Susanna Gibbs.  Hester Tyley and James =
Dyer had a daughter Emma, who was born 2 oct 1832, and died 24 jan 1833 =
and buried in Wedmore..  In the 1850 US Census James and Hester Dyer are =
in Dubuque Co IA with a Harriet Dyer, who was 17 years old at the time, =
born in England [abt 1833]. Was she a twin or a sister to Emma? Did she =
come from a completely different family? I could not find anything more =
on her in Iowa.


  The email you send raises questions about the Hester Tyley (1817-1899) =
 who was the wife of John Dyer (1814 - 1878), oldest son of James Dyer =
and his first wife Mary ---.  She was purportedly the daughter of John =
and Hannah --- Tyley, although Dyer family tradition says she was the =
daughter of the Hester Tyley who married James Dyer, father of John, but =
this does not seem possible, esp with the birth records in Wedmore.  =
Both of her parents, if they were John and Hannah Tyley, died before the =
John Dyers left Wedmore in 1849.  How was John Tyley husband of Hannah, =
related to Hester Tyler wife of James Dyer??

  Her brother Paul emigrated with her and her family on the steamship =
Sarah Sands in 1849 to America, he was perhaps the child John, baptized =
on 21 apr 1821, At the time of emigration Hester Tyley was 34, and Paul =
Tyley 28.  The daughter of John and Hester Dyer, Jennie or Jane Dyer b. =
1845 was not on this list, nor was the mysterious Harriet Dyer. =
Furthermore Paul Tyley and John Dyer, the youngest child of John and =
Hester Dyer, appear on a different page from the rest of the family in =
the passenger lists for the Sarah Sands.  William Dyer and his first =
wife Louisa Wooley,  were also on this ship, as was Mary Richards =
(1837-1917), who became his third wife, with her mother and stepfather, =
Paul Tyley died in Iowa after 1860 when he appears in the census with =
the John Dyers, and is buried with them at the Mount Hope Cemetery in =
Dyersville.

  I have put my family tree on Ancestry.com, but have not added much on =
the forebears of the Tyleys or on Mary Richards family, but will later.

  Meanwhile thanks for letting me know about this,

  Best wishes,

  Mary


  ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: Robert McDermott=20
    To: Mary Thacher=20
    Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 11:45 AM
    Subject: Fwd: New Comment on Your Family Tree


    Hi Mary=20
    Take a look at this comment re James Dyer.  Looks like good info.  =
What do you think?
    Bob



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          A comment has been posted on your family tree titled =
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          The comment, made by HSteller, is about James Dyer (Born 17 =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mary and all on the Wedmore =
list,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I am another descendant of Wedmore =
ancestors who=20
went on to the Dyersville, Iowa area.&nbsp; I descend from Hugh and Jane =
Davis=20
Roper of Wedmore.&nbsp; After Hugh's death, his wife Jane and his=20
3&nbsp;daughters &amp; son John arrived in Wisconsin between 1848 and=20
1850.&nbsp; All 3 daughters and their families moved to the Dyersville =
area in=20
1853.&nbsp; My direct line is through Hugh &amp; Jane's daughter Betsey =
Roper=20
Tincknell b 1819 Wedmore, d. 12 Dec 1907 in Alta, Buena Vista County,=20
Iowa.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I would be very much interested in =
learning more=20
about Emmett Polder's book when it is available.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thank you,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Sandi McGinnis</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Amarillo, TX</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 26, =
2009 8:46=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [WED]Fw: New Comment =
on Your=20
  Family Tree</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear John Hayward,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Hope you are still working on =
Wedmore!&nbsp; I=20
  understand that Emmett Polder who died in January 2009 wrote a book on =
the=20
  English families in Iowa, which should be appearing soon, and should =
be of=20
  interest to your Wedmore group.&nbsp; I will let you know when I hear =
it is=20
  out.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Perhaps you can help on this little=20
  mystery!</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>With all good wishes,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mary Thacher</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
  <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
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thacher</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dbobmcd@mac.com =
href=3D"mailto:bobmcd@mac.com">Robert=20
  McDermott</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Djohn@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk=20
  href=3D"mailto:john@hayward2.fsnet.co.uk">John Hayward</A> </DIV>
  <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 26, 2009 5:48 PM</DIV>
  <DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: New Comment on Your Family Tree</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Dear Bob,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Thanks for sending that on to =
me.&nbsp; I have=20
  not given much thought to the Dyersville families lately and after =
getting=20
  this email I went back to my files and found the =
following</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>On the Wedmore website, there are two =
cousins,=20
  John Hayward of England and Tim Curtin of Australia who wrote to me =
about the=20
  Dyer, Burnett&nbsp;and Tyley families&nbsp; John Hayward has a family =
tree=20
  site on ancestry.com.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>He says that Hester Tyley, wife of =
James Dyer=20
  (1792-1884) was the daughter of William Tyley and&nbsp;=20
  Susanna&nbsp;Gibbs.&nbsp; Hester Tyley and James Dyer had a daughter =
Emma, who=20
  was born 2 oct 1832, and died 24 jan 1833 and buried in =
Wedmore..&nbsp; In the=20
  1850 US Census James and Hester Dyer are in Dubuque Co IA with a =
Harriet Dyer,=20
  who was 17 years old at the time, born in England [abt 1833]. Was she =
a twin=20
  or a sister to Emma? Did she come from a completely different =
family?&nbsp;I=20
  could not find anything more on her in Iowa.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>The email you send =
raises&nbsp;questions about=20
  the Hester Tyley (1817-1899) &nbsp;who was the wife of John Dyer (1814 =
-=20
  1878), oldest son of James Dyer and his first wife Mary ---.&nbsp; She =
was=20
  purportedly the daughter of John and Hannah --- Tyley, although Dyer =
family=20
  tradition says she was the daughter of the Hester Tyley who married =
James=20
  Dyer, father of John, but this does not seem possible, esp with the =
birth=20
  records in Wedmore.&nbsp; Both of her parents, if they were John and =
Hannah=20
  Tyley, died&nbsp;before the John Dyers left Wedmore in 1849.&nbsp; How =
was=20
  John Tyley husband of Hannah, related to Hester Tyler wife of James=20
  Dyer??</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Her brother Paul emigrated with her =
and her=20
  family on the steamship <EM>Sarah Sands</EM> in 1849 to America, he =
was=20
  perhaps the child John, baptized on 21 apr 1821, At the time of =
emigration=20
  Hester Tyley was 34, and Paul Tyley 28.&nbsp; The daughter of John and =
Hester=20
  Dyer, Jennie or Jane Dyer b. 1845 was not on this list, nor was the =
mysterious=20
  Harriet Dyer.&nbsp;Furthermore Paul Tyley and John Dyer, the youngest =
child of=20
  John and Hester Dyer, appear on a different page from the rest of the =
family=20
  in the passenger lists for the <EM>Sarah Sands</EM>. &nbsp;William =
Dyer and=20
  his first wife Louisa Wooley, &nbsp;were also on this ship, as was =
Mary=20
  Richards (1837-1917), who became his&nbsp;third wife, with her mother =
and=20
  stepfather, Paul Tyley died in Iowa after 1860 when he appears in the =
census=20
  with the John Dyers, and is buried with them at the Mount Hope =
Cemetery in=20
  Dyersville.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>I have put my family tree on =
Ancestry.com, but=20
  have not added much on the forebears of the Tyleys or on Mary Richards =

  family,&nbsp;but will later.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Meanwhile thanks for letting me know =
about=20
  this,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Best wishes,</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2 face=3DArial>Mary</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 26, =
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    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fwd: New Comment on =
Your=20
    Family Tree</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>Hi Mary=20
    <DIV>Take a look at this comment re James Dyer. &nbsp;Looks like =
good info.=20
    &nbsp;What do you think?</DIV>
    <DIV>Bob<BR>
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