[WED]Re:Popham
Cory & Kristen
wedmore@lists.tutton.org
Tue, 10 Feb 2004 13:56:32 -0600
Thnak you so much Mathew for the information these Pophams do match with
mine.I have paper form the Delware Co. book on Edwin Popham will sed them
via E-mail and to anyone else who is interested. Kristen.
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> Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to compare your information =
> against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry and Elizabeth =
> Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my =
> information below.
> Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in Blackford, I will check.
>
> 1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I have some doubts as to =
> whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that Henry was =
> living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are =
> correct, as the age of the map could be a few years either side of =
> 1841.)
> Henry Popham age 45
> Elizabeth 40
> Elizabeth 23
> Charlotte 22
> George 18
> Edwin 15
> Henry 13
> Note that ages in this census were only correct to the nearest 5 years, =
> however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect.=20
>
> 1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford.
> Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, Wedmore.
> Elizabeth 59 born Mark.
> Mary 36, daughter born Mark.
> Edwin 24, son born Wedmore.
> Gabriel 1, visitor born Wedmore.=20
> Gabriel may be a grandson.
>
> Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard.
> 1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 years.
> Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged 81 years.
> Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged 76 years.
> 2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 years.
> Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, aged 78 years.
> Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not know if he was living =
> there.
>
> I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found some of Edwin's =
> brothers and sisters.
> Henry and his wife in Nyland.
> Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell.
> George and wife and family in Mark.
> Mary, unmarried in South Brent.
> I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that they were already in =
> the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in England living =
> with Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the marriages took place in late =
> 1881, it would be interesting to know the circumstances which lead to =
> the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted by post.
>
> My American information comes from an unpublished Duckett family tree =
> researched by Jemima Thom. She was a descendant of an Edward Duckett, =
> who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett) brother. Edward emigrated to =
> Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he moved to Buchanan County. I suspect =
> that the Pophams may have settled nearby. Stephen Popham, his father and =
> the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. The rest is on =
> Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that was a =
> mistake, unless he was known by both names.
>
> Finally I have a pair of large oil paintings of Henry Popham and his =
> wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister Jane Clarke was my =
> paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted around =
> 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the =
> same, but there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this =
> time.
> I will try to make certain that this is the case, and then check on =
> Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is confusing.
> Matthew Duckett.
>
>
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hello again Kristen, I have now had a chance to =
> compare your=20
> information against mine. There is little doubt in my mind that Henry =
> and=20
> Elizabeth Popham were the parents of your Edwin Popham. I am listing my=20
> information below.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Edwin was baptised on 27 7 1826, probably in =
> Blackford, I will=20
> check.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>1841 census, (I have recorded, at Westham, but I =
> have some=20
> doubts as to whether this is right. I know from a contemporary map that =
> Henry=20
> was living in the centre of Blackford about this time, perhaps both are =
> correct,=20
> as the age of the map could be a few years either side of =
> 1841.)</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Henry Popham age 45</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Elizabeth &=
> nbsp; =20
> 40</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Elizabeth &=
> nbsp; =20
> 23</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Charlotte &=
> nbsp; =20
> 22</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>George &nbs=
> p; 18</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Edwin  =
> ; =20
> 15</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Henry  =
> ; 13</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Note that ages in this census were only correct to =
> the nearest=20
> 5 years, however, Elizabeth's age looks suspect. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>1851 census, at Wells Way, Blackford.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Henry Popham age 58, farmer, 50 acres, born Westham, =
>
> Wedmore.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Elizabeth &=
> nbsp; =20
> 59  =
> ; =
> =20
> born Mark.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Mary =
> =20
> 36,=20
> daughter  =
> ; =20
> born Mark.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Edwin  =
> ; =20
> 24,=20
> son &nbs=
> p; =20
> born Wedmore.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT=20
> size=3D2>Gabriel &nb=
> sp; =20
> 1,=20
> visitor =
> born=20
> Wedmore. </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gabriel may be a grandson.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Gravestones in Blackford Churchyard.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>1) Betsy Popham died 28 11 1870, aged 76 =
> years.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Henry Popham died 30 7 1877, aged =
> 81=20
> years.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Mary Popham died 18 2 1890, aged =
> 76=20
> years.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>2) Henry Popham died 22 4 1912, aged 84 =
> years.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> Elizabeth Popham died 16 2 1902, =
> aged 78=20
> years.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Henry Popham the elder died at Brent, but I do not =
> know if he=20
> was living there.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have also looked at the 1881 census, and found =
> some of=20
> Edwin's brothers and sisters.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Henry and his wife in Nyland.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Elizabeth, unmarried in Banwell.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>George and wife and family in Mark.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Mary, unmarried in South Brent.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I can't find Edwin (or Stephen), and I assume that =
> they were=20
> already in the USA, but Elizabeth and Rosina Duckett were still in =
> England=20
> living with </FONT><FONT size=3D2>Elizabeth's brother Michael. As the =
> marriages=20
> took place in late 1881, it would be interesting to know the =
> circumstances which=20
> lead to the marriages. Courtship must have been very short or conducted =
> by=20
> post.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>My American information comes from an=20
> unpublished Duckett family tree researched by Jemima Thom. She was =
> a=20
> descendant of an Edward Duckett, who was Elizabeth Popham's (Duckett)=20
> brother. Edward emigrated to Dubuque County in 1866. In 1871 he =
> moved to=20
> Buchanan County. I suspect that the Pophams may have settled nearby. =
> Stephen=20
> Popham, his father and the marriages are mentioned in the introduction. =
> The rest=20
> is on Ducketts. Curiously she refers to Edwin as Henry, I assume that =
> was a=20
> mistake, unless he was known by both names.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Finally I have a pair of large oil paintings =
> of Henry=20
> Popham and his wife. These come to our family because Henry's sister =
> Jane Clarke=20
> was my paternal grandmother's, maternal grandmother. They were painted =
> around=20
> 1840. I am still not 100% certain that the "two Henry Pophams" are the =
> same, but=20
> there seems to be only one Henry Popham in Blackford at this =
> time.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>I will try to make certain that this is the case, =
> and then=20
> check on Henry's parents. Let me know if any of this is =
> confusing.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Matthew Duckett.</FONT></DIV>
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